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Is the fixed-penalty fine for smoking offences effective?

SCMP

The smoking ban has been extended to include 48 covered public transport interchanges (“New bans and fines failing to deter smokers”, September 2).

However, there are not enough tobacco control officers, or staff from the other departments, to issue the fixed-penalty tickets. If there are not enough officers to patrol the new restricted areas, smokers will continue to light up.

It would appear that the issuing of tickets is fairly rare. Therefore, the new rule is not deterring smokers because there is little chance of them being caught and having to pay the penalty.

Most smokers do not care about the extended ban.

I think the problem has been made worse, because smokers are unclear about the rules.

From my observations, it would appear that only a few posters have been put up in bus terminals telling smokers that, from September 1, smoking is banned. However, it is not made clear which are the restricted areas and where smoking is allowed.

This makes it really hard for smokers to follow the rules, because the instructions are unclear, and so people continue to smoke where they should not.

It is also difficult for officials to take action against someone when they receive a complaint from a member of the public. After all, it does not take that long to smoke a cigarette and stub it out.

Education is the key to getting people to obey the rules and not light up in no-smoking areas. This is far more important than imposing penalties.

Gladys Ho, Tsuen Wan

The smoking ban was extended to transport interchanges from the beginning of this month. I am a non-smoker and support it.

It means passengers do not have to put up with second-hand smoke when queuing up for a bus. However, I have my doubts about how effective it has been.

Before the ban was fully extended, some government departments were saying it would mean an increased workload on their staff.

A law can only be effective if it has suitable penalties and enough people to enforce that law.

If departments cannot, or will not, take action to fine people who break the law, then it will fail to have the desired deterrent effect.

The relevant departments have been designated the roles of enforcers of this particular law, and they should do their jobs.

Mak Ka-chun, Yuen Long

Should there be more controls of outdoor smoking?

SCMP

I refer to the report “Pedestrians complain of fumes from outdoor areas where smoking allowed” (July 13).

Smoke Terminators’ Society chairwoman Betty Kwan Ka-mei said it was unfair to non-smokers exposed to second-hand smoke. What about the rights of the smoking population?

We now have smoke-free buildings, parks and beaches, and, since July 1, smoke-free bars and clubs. Where are smokers supposed to go? At least we are able to keep to the designated areas and street corners.

The report referred to a designated area in Wan Chai: Gloucester Road Garden. I am sorry if the smoke seems concentrated, but that is what happens when the smoking population congregates in segregated areas.

Did people who have voiced their concerns think the smoking population of Hong Kong consisted of only a few thousand people?

I am always hearing about the damage of second-hand smoke but have yet to see a study comparing the effects of second-hand smoke to the effects of vehicular pollution in a densely populated city with heavy traffic like Hong Kong. When I am on the pavements I cannot be sure which is stronger, the smell of cigarette smoke or the exhaust fumes of the city’s traffic.

Ken Wong, Happy Valley

More councils introduce smoke-free outdoor areas

http://www.smh.com.au/national/more-councils-introduce-smokefree-outdoor-areas-20090721-ds4f.html

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Louise Hall Health Reporter

THE number of councils in NSW that have introduced smoke-free outdoor areas has more than doubled in the past two years, a Heart Foundation survey has found.

The figures, published today, show 58 of 152 NSW councils had banned smoking in areas such as playgrounds, swimming pools and alfresco-dining areas by May, up from 28 councils in 2007.

The implementation of smoke-free outdoor areas has been higher in metropolitan municipalities, with 65 per cent of 43 councils introducing the bans, compared with 28 per cent of 109 regional councils.

Warringah, Wollongong City, Camden, Hurstville and Port Stephens are the latest councils to approve a smoke-free policy in council-owned outdoor areas.

The Heart Foundation says there is emerging evidence that secondhand smoke in outdoor areas where people tend to congregate,including alfresco-dining areas, sports stadiums and concert venues, can present a health risk to the public and staff.

A recent study of cigarette smoke levels in a variety of outdoor locations showed that a person sitting near a smoker in an outdoor area could be exposed to levels of cigarette smoke similar to those experienced by someone sitting in an indoor pub or club.

There is also evidence to suggest that smoke-free areas support smokers who are trying to quit as well as reduce their overall cigarette consumption.

The chief executive of the Heart Foundation, Tony Thirlwell, said there had been some resistance to the idea in some councils, but complacency was the largest factor in more NSW councils failing to follow suit.

“In the councils which have implemented the policy, there’s largely been a particular councillor that’s felt strongly about the issue and been an advocate for it,” he said.

Of the 58 councils with smoke-free policies, 95 per cent cover playgrounds, making this the most common smoke-free area. Sporting fields (78 per cent), pools (26 per cent), beaches (17 per cent) and alfresco-dining areas (16 per cent) were included to various degrees.

“While there are fines for breaching the policy, we’re not into policing, such as getting council rangers to hunt out smokers,” MrThirlwell said.

“But we do hope it raises awareness in the community, so that people walk away from others if they want to smoke.”

Pedestrians complain of fumes from outdoor areas where smoking allowed

Ng Yuk-hang – SCMP

A smokers’ haven in Wan Chai is proving to be a non-smoker’s nightmare, with many complaining they are assailed by second-hand smoke despite being in the open air.

Surrounded by three government buildings – Immigration Tower, Revenue Tower and Wanchai Tower – Gloucester Road Garden is a designated smoking area administered by the Leisure and Cultural Services Department.

Cheung Mei-ping, who walks past the garden every day, says the smoke is so thick she fears it may affect her health. “Sometimes the smell is so strong that I must make a detour,” Ms Cheung, who works in the nearby Shui On Centre, said.

A Ms Lam, who also works nearby, said it was “unwise” to put a smoking area there and it would be better to let smokers indulge their habit by the sea. “At least the wind is stronger there,” she said.

But smokers described the garden as their last refuge. “Now we can’t even smoke in bars. Smokers and non-smokers should be more considerate of each other,” a Mr Chan said.

Asked if she agreed that the lingering smoke was an annoyance to non-smokers, a Ms Ma said: “Cars on the road also generate exhaust gas, they are also hazardous to health.”

Smoke Terminators’ Society chairwoman Betty Kwan Ka-mei said the area was virtually an enclosed smoking room with only an open roof. “The skyscrapers nearby block the smoke and create a chimney effect,” she said. “The smoke concentration is quite high and can be quite hazardous.”

She cited a study that found inhaling second-hand smoke in an enclosed room for an hour is equivalent to smoking a packet of cigarettes.

Gloucester Road Garden was not the only place where smoke lingered in the air, Dr Kwan said. She had seen patients smoking outside many hospitals, and office workers puffing near shopping malls.

“It is crazy,” she said. “It is unfair to non-smokers, who should have the freedom to reject second-hand smoke.” She urged the government to extend the smoking ban to areas with slow airflow.

West Vancouver looks to tighten outdoor smoking regulations

By Rebecca Aldous – North Shore Outlook

With the District of West Vancouver’s new bylaw, the North Shore is moving towards more stringent smoking bylaws than those introduced by the provincial government in 2009.


The North Shore may soon be butting out more outdoor smoking.

With West Vancouver leading the charge, the districts and city east of the Lions Gate Bridge, along with the help of the Vancouver Coastal Health Authority, aim to introduce stricter regulations on top of the provincial government’s 2008 outdoor smoking laws.

The new bylaws, which must be approved by the province’s Ministry of Health, would ban smoking on patios, swimming beaches, athletic fields and children’s playgrounds.

They will also further extend B.C.’s three- metre rule for smoking next to building entrances or air ducts to six metres. “I think essentially it will eliminate smoking on outdoor patios at restaurants,” West Vancouver Mayor Pamela Goldsmith-Jones said.“That is the biggest thing that people will notice.”

Sailor Hagar’s Brew Pub owner Brian Riedlinger said his business will be negatively impacted financially by the move.A lot of the pub’s patrons smoke and currently use the outdoor patio. Eliminating that area will force them onto streets and into alleys, which in turn will create more work for his staff, he said.

“We’ll have to start monitoring they don’t take their drinks out there,” Riedlinger said.

Already the provincial regulations mandating smoking three metres from doorways or air ducts are not being complied throughout Greater Vancouver, he said noting the regulation just pushes people further into sideway traffic.

In B.C. less than 20 per cent of the population smokes, reports Perry Kendall, B.C.’s public health officer.

In West Vancouver this number is further reduced to 6 per cent and predicted to diminish as demographic changes occur, stated the district report.

West Vancouver has sent the bylaw to the health minister for approval. Once it returns, the bylaw will be put to a final vote by council, likely in September, said Liz Holitzki, West Vancouver’s manager of permits, inspections and bylaws.

Steve Feenstra, District of North Vancouver assistant chief of fire prevention, said the district is currently working on a new smoking bylaw that could have a far reaching effect.

One major area the bylaw would tackle would be smoking in the district’s parks and forests, he said.

“The fire chief has the ability to enforce a smoking ban any time he sees fit,” Feenstra explained but added the bylaw could outright ban smoking from parks instead.

“We haven’t quite nailed (the ban) down to six months or year round.”

Earlier in June, the DNV Fire Rescue Service reported it had fought 25 wildfires as of June 5. In 2008, district firefighters fought 62 brush or grass fires.

“It’s looking like we’ll be somewhere in the 60 to 80 (brush/grass fire) range,” deputy fire chief Victor Penman told The Outlook in June.

On Monday, City of North Vancouver council asked its staff to look into the possibility of banning smoking in multi-unit dwellings.

The decision followed a presentation by resident Sean Soper, who argued for the ban due to health concerns and fire hazard.

While Soper acknowledged that a smoking ban can be implemented by an individual building, he claimed it is a difficult process particularly if a strata is involved.

“It’s a matter of principal, I don’t think people in the city should be exposed to second-hand smoke,” Soper told The Outlook. “I think the city should try to keep citizens away from known hazards.”

Mayor Darrell Mussatto said staff have been asked to look into whether it would be legal for the city to enact such a bylaw and what options it has.

“Once we know what our legalities are we can have the discussion about what we can do about this,” Mussatto said.